"Depends on the day," he grumbles. Then he sighs. "No they're just--they're very obstinate, nasty geese."

And, some months ago, may have been the final straw in a small, embarrassing break down. He's rather grateful Martin wasn't here for that. It's bad enough Oran had seen him through it.

Then Jon blinks and looks up at Martin.

"Why would--blood geese? Have you seen blood geese?"